Welcome. I actually didnt know what JWR was, but this place is prob very similar. Anytime aomeone has needed support including myself.....its right there.
LOL at "cult updates and friendly conversation". I smell a tag line in the making.
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JWR Alumni
by marlborobarbie inhey y'all.
i just wanted to officially make my debut on https://www.jehovahs-witness.com and introduce myself.
i'm an old jwrer, and it looks like i'll be dropping in on here now for cult updates and friendly conversation.. a little about myself:.
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Need some help: Existential crisis in full swing
by Freeandclear inso is anyone else having an existential crisis after becoming fully awake?
let me explain.
about 2 years ago i read coc, still believed and tried to get back in da troof.
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Free and clear,
Well......hard to find someone who mirrors my out thoughts more than you just did. I have found purpose and meaning in my two small children, and am on a search for meaningful contribution to society somewhere in between living in a tree in the amazon, and going door to door doing nothing.
Here is a conclusion i came to, that helped me understand my own fear. I havent dealt with the fear, but i understand it. Reading bokks on child developement, it seems clear there is,a certain time in a childs life that tje y process death. Lets say a 4 year olds dog dies. They are sad. But fo they understand death? No. They lost a play companion. They want "another". The general understanding that you are living your one and only life (as you know it to be), is 10-12 years old. Now religion interjects itself and says....karma....heaven....nirvana....etc... But JWs are unique in that they teach you WONT EVEN DIE. So the natural process that interhects the idea of death, never gets processed. Oh i dont havecto die? Awesome.
So now you are an adult, you know its BS......guess what you never dealth with when it was time to deal with it.
I hope this helps. PM me if you like.
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Intro
by Exjwme inyou can all call me jess, i guess you can say i'm a "refugee" from jwr.
i'm going to try and keep this short for now, i'm in my early 20s, i was born in but never baptized, i've been mentally out for 7 years and fully out for about 5ish.
despite never having been baptized my fading took quite a bit of time and work.
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Welcome to the board. If you have controlled your depression, what would you say was the catalyst for that change.
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What is this I have heard about the new teachings at the RC
by dogon inis there some new teachings i am hearing about, in the disfellow shipping area?.
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Can anyone point to specifics?
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Who was the poster who predicted radical Watchtower change years ago?
by slimboyfat inwho was the poster, about 8 years ago, who came on the forum and claimed he had inside information that the gb were planning radical changes.
he said that in ten years time jws would be unrecognisable.
many were skeptical.
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Ummmmmmmm....i dont want to piss on your shoulder and say its raining but there is no real change. Blood is still banned, they are doubling down on disfellowshipping, and tbe FDS doctrine is convaluded to the point not even they understand it.
What is this radical change you speak of?
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Should I stay married to my JW wife
by gatorguy inme and my wife were at the beach the other day and i finally told her, i don't think i believe in god anymore.
i fessed up to the fact that it started with me doubting some jw beliefs and then it just led me to this point where i don't even believe in god.
i wouldn't say that i even have a negative view towards jw's or religion in general.
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So here are my basic thoughts.....and welcome to the board.
Do you love your wife? When I figured out (was figuring out), that I no longer wanted to be a part of this religion, I was pretty brash with my wife. She was mean back. I thought it might be the end. But.....I loved her. Loved her very much. She felt the same way. So when it came down to it, I had to back off a bit, and try to speak from a place of love, ASSURING her that I wasn't going to go bang whores and do heroine because you know......I wasn't really believing anymore and thats what all people that leave do right?
I had to allow her to see the hypocricy in her programming, but I had to do it from a place of love. It worked, only because she loved me back. Fast forward 2 years and she is out 100%. Many aren't so fortunate. My marriage could have gone either way.
So maybe start there. My wife's authentic personality was worth fighting for. Do you feel that way? If not, you should with dignity and respect handle the disillusion of your marriage.
I would slow your roll on expressing how you feel. The CLASSIC mistake made by people here over and over is to get fired up with emotion at the beginning, and run their mouth before they know how to do so without getting in trouble. Get your power and firm stand first, then do what you need to do.
Just my 2 cents.
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I have a plan....
by DATA-DOG inwith all of the bat-shit crazy propaganda of late, i'm considering talking to my wife about the cult.
we have had zero religious discussions for two years.
the last discussion ended with ,"you have no beliefs, no personal beliefs, because you change your "beliefs" when the wtbts writes an article.
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Also I cosign Daniels thoughts and many others int hat same vein. I like the text to your daughter.
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I have a plan....
by DATA-DOG inwith all of the bat-shit crazy propaganda of late, i'm considering talking to my wife about the cult.
we have had zero religious discussions for two years.
the last discussion ended with ,"you have no beliefs, no personal beliefs, because you change your "beliefs" when the wtbts writes an article.
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Ok I'll just shoot from the hip.
How about.......babycakes or (insert kind name here), you know I am going to the RC with you this year, and you know that isn't easy for me. I don't want to fight, because I love you very much, but I also know there are a lot of very over the top things going to be said this year.
I wonder if it would be ok, AFTER the convention, for us to have an open and honest conversation about those things. Free of judgement, and flailing emotion. I promise to hold judgement and my temper/rants, if you promise we can have a real back and forth conversation.
I love you and i know we can do it, its so simple. we should be able to don't you think?
Anyways.......prob what I would do, but just thought I would throw it out there.
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Major fail on last convention video
by ILoveTTATT2 inas noted on reddit,.
the last convention video,.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d43eygztxl4plagiarized the sound from this album:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2udtlqwtjd4 .
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I believe someone here reported it to the group, and they are checking to make sure it was properly licensed. (The groups label probably does this without their knowledge 95% of the time).
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Watch Tower's ridiculous Defence in Otuo v Morley and Watch Tower
by akromo inin the high court of justice queen’s bench division .
frank kofi otuo .
jonathan david morley .
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This is what stood out to me.
It is averred that disfellowshipping is a part of the Scripturally based internal religious procedures of Jehovah’s Witnesses which does not involve the determination of any private or public law rights and is therefore non- justiciable before a secular court.
Let that sink in a bit.